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  • May. 5th, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Charles Johnson of LGF (Little Green Footballs.com) has continued his slide into insanity.

Since I last blogged here, Johnson has attacked prominent or well-known conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Michelle Malkin.

Johnson keeps portraying anyone who is so much as one centimeter right of center as a "right wing extremist."

He has misrepresented anyone and everyone who appeared at the 2009 April "Tea Parties," insisting they're kooks or conspiracy theory cranks, when, in reality, they're just every-day folks who are fed up with high taxes and the like.

Just a day or two ago, he put down "Joe the Plumber."

Johnson supported the D.H.S. report which claimed that anyone who is against abortion, or who holds other traditional values, are a danger to our nation, and which insulted our military vets by suggesting they're all hair-trigger loons who will join domestic terrorist groups and attack fellow Americans.

Johnson's bizarre obsession with Creationism, I.D. (Intelligent Design) and Evolution still feature heavily at his blog.

This obsession with and hostility against Christian Creationists led to an attack, by him, against famous Christian James Dobson.

In another blog entry, Johnson attacked Christian pastor Rick Warren because Rick Warren said at one time that he does not believe in macro-evolution.

Johnson keeps making pot shots at people such as Pam Gellar (of blog Atlas Shrugs) and Robert Spencer (of Jihad Watch), and then, hypocritically, gets indignant when such individuals respond to the attacks which he initiated.

Johnson also keeps banning anyone and everyone from his blog who does not see eye- to- eye with him.

That's right, he does not just ban genuine trouble-makers from his blog, he bans people who disagree with his views, people who link to sites he does not approve of (such as World Net Daily.com), and he even bans people for asking him to define what his opinions are.

A few people have even been banned merely for using the 'voting' feature Johnson installed at LGF.

If you're an LGF member (called a "Lizard") and you dare to click the "minus" button on a post by Johnson to show your disapproval of his view, he will ban you for that.

More and more people around the web have now noticed when an unstable lunatic and traitor Johnson has become. Here are the links:

Because Johnson wants to rid the Republican Party of social conservatives (I don't know why he cares, since he recently admitted that he usually votes for Democratic candidates), here's a link which defends their presence:


In Defense of The Oogedy-Boogedy Branch of the GOP

From Atlas Shrugs:
Neo Nazis Link Up With Charles Johnson of LGF

From Jihad Watch:
Canadian neo-Nazis excoriate Jews, root for the Taliban, link to Little Green Footballs

You Tube video making fun of Johnson and LGF:
You Tube Video: Lizard Lounge

The above video is also on Jihad Watch:
Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs: Tool of Hamas-linked CAIR

After Johnson attacked Glenn Beck, Beck replied on his TV show. This site, Stop the ACLU, placed the video and transcript on their site:
Glenn Beck Vs Charles Johnson

here's an article about Johnson's downhill slide, although it gets a few details wrong or omits a few pertinent points:
Civil War Raging in Right Wing Blogosphere

-By the way, neither Johnson nor LGF are "right wing," so it's very incorrect to refer to either one as "right wing"

From Ace of Spades (the comment section is filled with funny remarks from visitors):
LGF Civil War Makes Media Outlet

-I think Johnson got hacked off at the "Ace of Spades" guy for merely linking to that story, or for allowing his readers to criticize Johnson in the comment section.

You see, it's not enough that Johnson does not support free speech on his own blog, but he tries to halt it at other people's blogs and expresses disgust or indignation that it takes place.

To add to Johnson's disgrace, he posted a false photo believing it to be genuine, but when it was pointed out to him that it was a "doctored" photo, he replied that may be so, but it was still "accurate."

O the hypocrisy and irony! (This is the same guy who faulted the Dan Rather TANG memo "fake but accurate" defense several years ago.)

From Atlas Shrugs:
The Punk is Punked! Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs Scammed! Falls for fauxtography

From Jihad Watch:
Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs falls for fauxtography!

Gates of Vienna:
Lies, Damned Lies, and LGF

From Atlas Shrugs:
Johnson threatens Michelle Malkin over her link above.

On Atlas Shrugs, mentions Johnson:
How Free Men Think

See reader comments on this Freeper page

From Tundra Tabloids:
A Legend in His Own Mind

From Jihad Watch, by Robert Spencer:
Charles Johnson's libels answered, Tuesday edition

From Jihad Watch, in response to a post by Johnson:
Is Geert Wilders a Fascist?

From The Coffee Shop Blog:
The Future of LGF

From Hip and Thigh:
Phillips on LGF


From The Religion of Peace:
Dhimwit of the Month Honors: Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs: Little Green Drama Queen

Because Johnson went after Melanie Phillips because she is opened-minded regarding Intelligent Design, she replied to his post:
The Secular Inquisition

From The Secular Inquisition by Melanie Phillips (I do not agree with all the points she makes in this article, but she makes a lot of good points against Johnson's position):
For those who appear to assume I am part of some cosmic Christian conspiracy to destroy science and deny the laws of nature, let me first of all gently enlighten you: I am an agnostic if traditionally-minded Jew; not a scientist, not a philosopher, not a subscriber to any kind of -ology but a mere journalist who has always gone wherever the evidence has led and, trying not to make too many mistakes, has formed her conclusions and her opinions from that process.

I hold no particular brief for ID, but am intrigued by the ideas it raises and want it to be given a fair crack of the whip to see where the argument will lead.

What I have also seen, however, is an attempt to shut down that argument by distorting and misrepresenting ID and defaming and intimidating its proponents.

One way of doing so is to conflate ID with Creationism. I wrote below that this is wrong, since ID comes out of science and creationism comes out of Biblical literalism.

This provoked Charles Johnson on LGF to accuse me of being either duped or dishonest.

Johnson – who has become unhealthily obsessed with ID and Creationism in recent months -- says I am wrong to say that ID is based on science rather than on religion, and wrong to say that it is different from Creationism.

The first thing to note is that the distinction I was drawing was not between ID and religion but between ID and creationism.

Creationism holds that the universe was literally created in six days or -- through ’young earth’ Creationism -- that it was created in a few thousand years; either way, it flies in the face of the fact that the universe is billions of years old.

Therefore Creationism is inimical to science. But few religious believers in the west subscribe to this literalism, as opposed to belief in a Creator which is common to all of them; Christianity and Judaism (even more so) promote the idea that Genesis is a poetic metaphor.

Since ID holds that some vague kind of intelligent force must have been behind the creation of the universe, there’s surely very little difference (and considerable overlap) between ID proponents and the vast majority of mainstream religious believers – amongst whom are numbered many scientists who have no difficulty reconciling their scientific knowledge about the universe, and the evolution of life within that universe, with belief in an ultimate Creator who kick-started the whole process.

So what’s the big hullabaloo about? ID proponents are said by the Charles Johnsons of this world to deny evolution. But this is not so. Creationists deny evolution.

But ID proponents say over and over again they are not Creationists and accept many aspects of evolution, in particular that organisms develop and change over time.

What they don’t accept is that random, blind-chance evolution accounts for the origin of all species and the origin of life, the universe and everything.

ID proponents say the idea that science can account for everything – the doctrine known variously as materialism or scientism – flies in the face of reason and evidence and seeks to commandeer the space previously reserved for the unknowable, or religion, which can sit very comfortably alongside science, as it does for so many.

Those who have imbibed evangelical atheistic materialism with their mothers’ milk, however, find it impossible to get their heads round this. Shouting from the rooftops that ID is not science but camouflaged religion, they react so viscerally precisely because ID does come out of science and talks its language.

After all, if people are evil and bonkers for believing in an intelligent creator, why aren't religious believers in a Biblical intelligent Creator also evil and bonkers?

The answer is that it is the science that is seen to be evil and bonkers.

While materialist fundamentalists can deal with religious believers by scoffing they are in a separate domain altogether from the real ie scientific world, the suggestion that science might itself arrive at the conclusion that there are limits to what it can understand is a heresy that directly threatens the materialist fundamentalist closed thought-system -- and therefore must be stamped out.

Refusing to accept that science and religion can be complementary -- and indeed feed each other --because religious faith is out to lunch, they cannot grasp that ID is a metaphysical idea that comes out of but stands separate from science, in that science leads here to an idea with which by definition it must abruptly part company.

Instead they insist that the two must be fused – and when that proves impossible, they cry victory.

As Charles Johnson asks on LGF:
If "intelligent design" is really based on science, why have their advocates failed to produce any scientific evidence for that claim, despite millions of dollars worth of funding and years in which to do it? Instead, "intelligent design" proponents spend all their time on public relations. Where are the peer reviewed studies? Where are the experimental proofs that can be duplicated by other scientists? Answer: nonexistent.
Well of course they are non-existent -- because ID is not in itself a scientific discovery. It is rather an inference from scientific discoveries.

Looking at the complexity of the created world, it says the evidence points inescapably to a guiding intelligence as the cause of that complexity.

It is an idea, a conclusion to a chain of observation and thought. When people demand proof of this idea, what they are actually demanding is proof that an ‘intelligent designer’ exists.

The fact that there are no peer-reviewed studies (!) demonstrating the existence of such a cosmic ‘designer’ provokes this yah-boo response. But it is obviously no more possible to prove the existence of an ‘intelligent designer’ than it is to prove the existence of the Biblical God.

ID is thus a paradox. The whole point is that it states that the ‘intelligent designer’ it posits as the only logical inference from scientifically verifiable complexity cannot be known through scientific means.

This is because the essence of the ID idea is that there is a limit to science beyond which it cannot go, since science cannot prove nor disprove the existence of God nor any kind of ‘ultimate designer’ of the universe which thus stands outside that universe and its laws. That is where science stops and faith begins.

ID makes space -- as the result of science -- for belief in a creator, whether this is a deistic being (conveniently vague) or the Biblical God (uncomfortably moral).

That certainly takes us into the realm of faith. Indeed, as already noted it takes us into pretty much the position occupied by many believers in Biblical religion – but it does so through the route of science. And that’s the incendiary point.

For the idea that faith might actually be informed by science sends the materialist fundies totally and completely ape -- as Darwin might have said. (Atheists! Joke alert!!)

Charles Johnson quotes Phillip Johnson, whom he dubs the ‘father’ of the ID movement’, and another ID proponent, the mathematician and philosopher William Dembski, as saying variously that ID is really about religion and philosophy rather than science and can serve to clear the ground for Christianity.

This, says Charles Johnson, proves that ID is based on religion.

But of course it proves no such thing.

ID certainly takes adherents into the territory of religion and philosophy -- but through the route of scientific reasoning. And the fact that certain evangelical Christians have spotted the potential of ID to restore Christianity to the public sphere, and have formulated a strategy to capitalise upon that potential, does not mean that ID is actually a religious movement.

But the materialist fundies cannot accept this. Believing as they do with perfect faith that all dissent from their world view is heresy, they assume that ID can be nothing other than a conspiracy to smuggle religion back into the public sphere under the heavy disguise of science. And not just religion but Creationism, the Biblical, literalist, science-denying, dinosaurs-never-existed full monty.

And so, spraying distortions and false assertions in every direction, they claim that Phillip Johnson is the begetter of ID, that the Discovery Institute is a Creationist front where the whole infernal movement was hatched, that its leaked ‘Wedge’ document revealed the deep conspiracy to foist Christianity upon an unsuspecting world, and that the school textbook Of Pandas and People at the centre of the seminal court case Kitzmiller v Dover Area School District had started life as a Creationist textbook and then been surreptitiously altered to pretend it was teaching ID instead – all proving that ID is in fact a conspiracy to smuggle Creationism into American schools, camouflaged as its scientific antithesis.

Like all conspiracy theories, this one is characterised by irrationality, distortion and hysteria.

Assuming that there was indeed dirty work at the Creationist crossroads over Of Pandas and People – so what?

One sneaky attempt to get round the constitutional bar on teaching religion in public schools doesn’t prove that the whole ID movement was a Giant Creationist Conspiracy.

If there was an intellectual begetter of this movement, it was surely the biochemist Professor Michael Behe, whose book Darwin's Black Box in 1996 expounded the theory of irreducible complexity.

He is not a Creationist. Other exponents such as Phillip Johnson explicitly renounce Creationism.

As he explained in his book Wedge of Truth in 2000, he wanted to make use of the scientific and philosophical idea of ID to split science from the materialist fundamentalism that had driven it to make hubristic claims to knowledge which it could not reasonably support.

Far from denying science, he wanted to restore it to what he believed to be the realm of reason and observable evidence – and thus make space once again for religion.

To be sure, he and others at the Discovery Institute (which says it promotes religious pluralism rather than Creationism, and which refused to get involved in the Kitzmiller fight) were excited by what they thought were the prospects this would open up for a new stage in the culture wars.

But while there is room for debate over that agenda, it is dishonest and really quite irrational to claim that this showed ID was invented as a pretext to wage such a war and smuggle back Christianity into the public sphere.

To repeat – I have no particular brief for ID. I am not in a position to judge whether its arguments about ‘irreducible complexity’ and the logic of intelligent design are soundly based or not.

But I do know that the attempt to shut down this debate runs against every principle of rationality and scientific freedom; and that the claim that it is rooted not in science but in religious fundamentalism is a falsehood designed to smear and intimidate people into silence.

It’s the fact that it did come out of science that prompted the philosopher and celebrated former atheist Antony Flew to became a deist -- because, as he said in his book There is a God, the laws of nature presuppose an infinite intelligence; ‘...this is the world picture, as I see it, that has emerged from modern science’.

It’s why Steve Fuller, Professor of Sociology at Warwick University and a self-described ‘secular humanist’, has argued
that the way ID's practitioners approach the debate means they are actually engaged in a scientific enterprise. But he draws the line at Creationism because, he says, it has abandoned the scientific method: ‘Those guys are basically teaching the Bible as science.’ For Fuller, religion and science are compatible. He complains that evolutionary theory is being taught as dogma. It needs a ‘critical foil’ and ID satisfies that function as well as anything else.
Dogma is certainly what is on the other side of ID in this fight – a materialist dogma which, posing as the standard-bearer of reason against obscurantism, actually embodies irrationality and a kind of intellectual fascism. It is a secular inquisition – as the reaction to my post makes all too plain.
From The Religion of Peace site:

Dhimwith of the Month Charles Johnson of Little Green Footbal - Little Green Drama Queen
April 2009 Dhimwit:
Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs


Robert Spencer posted a veiled threat today to attack me physically.”
-Charles Johnson, LGF April 26, 2009


Anyone who has made a fool out of the mainstream media as often as the Charles Johnson has can’t be all bad – even if he is making a bigger fool out of himself these days. Five years ago, the talented creator of the Little Green Footballs blog and “co-founder” of Pajamas Media (a top-notch web magazine) went toe-to-toe with CBS News and not only took down Dan Rather, but also won a great deal of respect for on-line journalism in the process…

Then things got weird. Really weird.

What happened to the nearly 60-year-old Johnson after hitting his high-water mark is anyone’s guess. Did success go to his head, or was he really that… um... well-grounded to begin with?

LGF has always had the look and feel of someone trying just a little too hard to be the coolest smart guy in the room. The music video posts and alleged mountain-bike exploits blend with the exaggerated moralizing and mind-numbing philosophical excerpts about as naturally as a ponytail perched on top of a middle-aged face and gut. (Something tells us that chilling with Charles might be about as fun as, say, tying one on with Ross Perot).

Still, no one could have anticipated Johnson getting so worked up over a petty grievance that he would betray courageous allies who already have a hard enough time battling Islamic violence and tyranny in an age of politically correctness.

Johnson's strange tale of paranoia and rage is probably best told by others. What we will say is that his once-promising blog is, today, little more than a narcissistic venue for pursuing personal vendettas and promoting rigid viewpoints on a narrow range of issues. At one time, LGF was an advocate of free speech and a reliable opponent of Islamic totalitarianism. Now Johnson literally bans opposing viewpoints and spends much of his time smearing anti-Jihadis and “creationists” with the same shady tactics once used against him.

While we sympathize with blog administrators who find it necessary to police against extremists and imposters, the LGF editor is so notorious for purging dissenting comments and permanently expelling readers who don’t toe the ideological line that being banned actually has a name - “getting CJ’d”. Like a child throwing a public tantrum, Johnson has even taken the extraordinary step of blocking certain sites from linking directly to his own posts.

As a result of this "Green Purge," the former flagship of the New Media, has all but officially devolved into a redundant monologue that exists mainly as a shifting monument to the editor’s perceived ethical superiority. Johnson’s posts are often bolstered by a dwindling army of loyal hanger-ons, who massage his ego with the sort of obsequious follow-up that brings to mind a “you da’ man” crowd trailing Tiger Woods. Not surprisingly, the blog has suffered declining readership over the last couple of years.

Filtering out contrary opinion also seems to have deepened Johnson’s sense of moral certitude to the point that he is attacking former friends, such as Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch), Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs) and many others, with unnecessary hair-splitting and flimsy “guilt-by-association” slurs that are unconstructive and highly divisive. (Hence his Dhimwit nomination).

In fact, Charles Johnson is now CAIR’s point man for attacking its own critics - apparently dethroning the “Reverend” Jim Sutter, an utter crackpot whose specious attack on Robert Spencer is still being promoted by desperate Islamic Supremacists. (Ironically, Sutter's only other claim to fame is Internet censorship – with one of his targets in 2007 being LGF itself).

Johnson’s slander of Robert Spencer (and others) is only a bit more sophisticated than CAIR’s, although no less shallow. In order to establish that the founder of Jihad Watch is a bigot (or Nazi) who hates Muslims and Jews, it is first necessary to ignore what Spencer actually says about Muslims, Jews, Nazis and bigotry. Once this restriction is in place, an intricate “Six Degrees” linkage is concocted between the hapless Spencer and real-life neo-Nazis through some sort of Rube Goldberg-like sequence of personal associations. Somehow this is supposed to fool people into believing that Robert Spencer, a staunch public defender of Israel and chronicler of hate crimes against Jews, for example, is actually a closet anti-Semite.

Of course, Spencer’s support for Israel is one reason why he periodically brings down CAIR's wrath – and the irony doesn’t end there. The connection between Spencer and true Nazis is downright imaginary compared to the fact that CAIR and the Islamist terror group Hamas actually share the same parent organization. More importantly, although Spencer openly condemns neo-Nazis, CAIR adamantly refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist group even though its members routinely murder Jews!

So our message to Charles Johnson is… Good god, man – what are you doing? Being used by the likes of CAIR? Sinking to the clownish level of a Garofalo or Olbermann? Implying that Jewish Pam Geller is a neo-Nazi sympathizer and affable Robert Spencer is about to pull out a nine and throw down on you?

Come on now, Charles. You don't belong on this list. The bitterness is making you look small. Time to ditch this childish paranoia and move back into the real world... where the love is. Come on back to your homies.

All will be forgiven... and we promise not to let anyone call you a fascist!
Other posts at this blog about LGF:

The LGF Anti Christian Bigotry Rolls On

Charles Johnson of LGF Continues to Behave Like a Looney Tune - part 1

Charles Johnson of LGF Continues to Act Like a Looney Tune, part 2

Little Green Footballs Fumbles the Ball by Making False Claims about Discovery Institute, Islam...

The Darwin Inquisition at LGF

The Darwinian Obsession at LGF Continues
(the above was posted in July 2008 - it is now May 2009, and Johnson's obsession with Darwinism is still going strong. He has to be mentally ill.)

Disappointment with Little Green Footballs

The LGF Anti Christian Bigotry Rolls On

  • Mar. 11th, 2009 at 11:36 PM

There are other LGF related threads on this blog, including this one .

Stay tuned for off-site links below, by other people who either take Johnson to task for his propaganda, anti-Christian bigotry, and penchant for censorship, or refutations of false statements Johnson has made at his blog.

I thought Charles Johnson’s obsession with Creationism and evolution would eventually die down, but it’s only gotten worse.

Not only is Johnson attacking Christians regarding Creationism, evolution, and Intelligent Design, but he and his regular blog members have been lambasting Christians such as James Dobson and Jerry Farwell (who is deceased), as well as Christian Bible prophecy (specifically the doctrine of the rapture).

Charles Johnson and his cohorts at LGF have also been traitors in regard to the conservative movement as a whole, as they regularly smear, insult, and mock social conservatives, and conservative politicians or radio hosts and personalities such as Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, (and I think at one point they were ragging on Rush Limbaugh as well).

Johnson continues to lie about why he has banned some people from his blog.

People are getting banned from Johnson’s blog merely for expressing dissenting views, and not because they are misbehaving, telling him how to run his blog, or posting negative comments about him at other blogs.

The sad thing is that some of Johnson’s readers are so blindly obedient to him that they automatically accept anything he says, rather than go checking out for themselves if something he has claimed is true.

Johnson and his blog look more and more ridiculous, because he (and some of his blog members) make ridiculous assertions, such as equating Christians with violent Muslim terrorists.

Johnson and his LGF Lizards are also paranoid - they adhere to some bizarre world view that Christians are evil people who want a theocracy and are trying to sneak Creationism or Intelligent Design into public schools.

I am a Christian, I am a creationist, but I don’t care if Creationism or I.D. (Intelligent Design) are taught in public schools or not.

That Johnson worries about it to the extent he does is silly and makes him look extremely foolish.

Ask yourself: if Creationism or I.D. are taught in public schools, what is the worst thing that will happen?

Let’s look at some scenarios of what might happen if Creationism and ID are taught in American public schools:

-Some kid might come to reject macro-evolution? (Your reaction to this should be: So what?)

-Some kid might realize that evolution is not an infallible theory? (Your reaction to this should be: So what?)

-Some kid might come to believe that there is, or might be, a god? (Your reaction to this should be: So what?)

I am a Christian who rejects macro-evolution and am therefore Charles Johnson’s worst fear. Yet, I am not a violent person.

I have a college education, I do not hate science, and I try to help other people, and I don‘t try to force my Christian faith down other people‘s throats.

In other words, I don’t fit Johnson’s stereotype of Christians and social conservatives as idiotic, hick- from- the- sticks simpleton.

I do not force my beliefs on Johnson or anyone else. I do not kill or discriminate against Non-Christians.

I cannot figure out why Johnson is so afraid of or threatened by people such as myself. That he is makes me think he’s unhinged, off his rocker, and not playing with a full deck.

Here are more web pages and blogs that speak out against Johnson and the direction he and his LGF blog has taken over the past couple of years:

(1)
Little Green Footballs 2 - Blogmocracy

A few posts from that blog you might want to check out include
I don’t think this blog is being updated anymore:
(2)
LGF 2 (the original LGF 2, hosted on word press)

(3)
Ah The Irony: LGF Goes CAIR (from Nov. 2008)

(4)
Charles Johnson of LGF wins “Biggest Pro-Censorship Ass-Hat“ Award

This is from the Sweetness and Light blog, in response to an attack Charles Johnson made against Ann Coutler:
(5)
Ann Coulter, The SPLC, LGF and the

(6)
Bring Down the Green Monster (from November 2008)
Please see previous blog entry:
Charles Johnson of LGF Continues to Act Like A Looney Tune - part 2
From the blog Hip and Thigh

Little Green Footballs Hits Bottom, Digs
Continuing in his campaign of spreading boneheaded propaganda against those individuals who would dissent from a Darwinian perspective on life, Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs posted this deceitful smear last week:

Radical Muslim Groups Fund U.S. Creationist Groups?

The gist of the post is to make a link with Muslim "creationist" apologist, Adnan Oktar, who is hardly a "creationist" as I have noted in two previous posts here and here, and other Christian creationist organizations like ICR.

The post then goes on to cite a report from Reuters (a news agency often commented on by Johnson as being unreliable, easily duped by Arab photo stringers, and is too accommodating for terrorists) who interviewed Oktar concerning the enormous book he wrote called Atlas of Creation.

The report suggests that Oktar is able to make huge print runs of the book, as well as mail them to creationists all over the world because he is funded by Saudi money. The final sentence in the citation is a quote from a Turkish-American physicist who makes the off-handed remark that if there are any funds flowing it is from Oktar to U.S. creationist groups.

Thus, if one connects Johnson's dots he has laid out before us, well the Discovery Institute is really a sleeper cell awaiting their orders to cut the throats of American children as they play in their backyards.

That bit of deceit is bad enough, but the most egregious is when Johnson links his readers to a page on Oktar's website mentioning the conferences the Turkish apologist has arranged to promote his Islamic "creationism" to the public.

Among those named by Oktar as speaking at his conferences, which are held in Turkey, are Dr. David Menton and Dr. Duane Gish, both respectable creationists. At first glance, the names of these men speaking at an Islamic creation conference is a bit troubling.

Why would these men be speaking at an Islamic conference like this? However, looking a bit closer at the article on Oktar's site, this particular conference where Gish and Menton spoke took place in 1998.

That's ten years ago folks!

My curiosity was stirred nonetheless, so I contacted a person I happen to know via the internet at Answers in Genesis, where Menton is a staff speaker. My friend responded to my inquiry and stated that Menton did indeed speak at that conference and regrets it something terrible now.

He was led to believe he would have opportunity to give his regular talks on various issues pertaining to anatomy, with scripture and the gospel incorporated in the talks.

However, Oktar's group censored him, as well as all the other Christians there, severely limiting the things they could present to the audience. It was a mistake he won't make again.

I have always noted that one of the dangers with intelligent design theory as it is promoted by the Discovery Institute, is that its apologetic approach is much too broad when confronting evolution in our culture.

By steering away from a solid commitment to our self-disclosed Creator, marginalizing the biblical creationists in their midst, as well as primarily appealing to the vague ideas of "ID" taught by ancient Greek philosophy, the otherwise fine folks at the Discovery Institute have opened themselves up to being in league with curious, theological bed-fellows.

This kind of compromise will only continue to handicap them and bring them under scrutiny by those in the ignorant masses, like Johnson.

That being said, it is one thing for Charles Johnson, or any anti-ID person, to passionately disagree with their system of belief, but when hatred for a dissenting viewpoint gets to the point a well-known blogger has to start inferring ridiculous conspiracies and begins making stuff up, his disagreement has gone beyond simple, passionate dislike, to becoming pathological. Again, more proof this debate is deeper than mere "scientific" evidence. It involves the heart.
Previous entry on this subject:
Charles Johnson of LGF Continues to Behave Like a Looney Tune - part 1

Since I last wrote, Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch added another post and has refuted Johnson's false accusations against him:
Charles Johnson hits bottom, digs (Part 2)

I do not see how anyone with a shred of moral decency or intellectual honesty can continue to participate at LGF, since its owner and some of its 'lead' posters have shown themselves to be untrustworthy and dishonest.

Other Anti-LGF information:

Adieu, Charles Johnson. I hardly know ye

LGF II: Charles and Killgore Free Footballs

Little Green Footballs on Evolution

It is time to punt Little Green Footballs

See especially posts #10 and #13:
Fun With Google Trends - ID vs. Darwinism vs. Creationism
by zephyr

I am sure there are others here, like me, who are sick to death of the blog Littlegreenfootballs blathering on about the “unscientific” evils of ID which Charles Johnson over there naturally conflates with Creationism. LGF was once a semi-decent blog especially (actually solely) on issues relating to leftwing PC hysterics, the Left’s apologetics re Islamic extremism and related. However these days LGF seems more concerned about propogandising for the Darwinian faithful than anything else, LGF these days comes across as a poor Pharyngula blog imitation.

Johnson is a big fan of - no surprises here - Ken Miller, whose attacks on ID Johnson is continually praising as the ultimate refutations of ID pretensions, as if Miller’s critiques of Dembski and Behe have not been effectively rebutted uh years ago. But then Johnson even put up a piece by Chris Hitchens whose grasp of evolutionary science and controversies is non-existent.

LGF pretends to be so concerned at the threat the West faces from Muslim extremism; but nowadays, in an irony so completely lost on Johnson, he like the leftwing media he pretends to be so opposed to (eg The Guardian, The Independent, SF Chronicle and all the rest of them) can only parrot the Darwinbots, as Islamic fanatics grow in power in Europe and elsewhere, extend their reign of terror in Pakistan and other parts of Asia and plot mass murder world-wide. In other words Johnson sounds more and more like a hack for salon.com and others of that ilk that he pretends to scorn.

While Johnson goes out of his way to try and laughably prove that the DI is in league with Islamic creationists; on evolution, Johnson merely repeats what many (not all of course) of the leftwing PC pseudo-intellectual pseudo-liberal hear-no-evil-speak-no-evil on Islamic terror crowd (and that to a degree includes Camp Obama) have to say re Intelligent Design and evolution.

I don’t bother reading the comments (sometimes hundreds) to a single post of the great Charles Johnson, I have a life after all, so I wouldn’t know if any dissent is tolerated there or not, but his fanclub do seem to function as an echo-chamber for Charles the Great.

by russ

Zephyr: I used to go to LGF. I don’t anymore. They’re too steeped in self-righteous ignorance about ID.
More Anti LGF information:

I don't agree with all the political views of this blog owner, but he has a lot of information of all the various LGF purges and bannings:
LGF Banned and Blocked

Charles Johnson Attacks Lawrence Auster: Heads roll in latest LGF purge

I'd Be Remiss...

Chuckles the Dancing Clown has a sock puppet “Guitar Guy"//Update: More Nazis under More Beds!
- Gulf Coast Pundit

Chuckles the Dancing Clown bans Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch. - Gulf Coast Pundit

Another conspiracy theory about the Discovery Institute
Since I was banned from LGF (for pasting in links refuting Darwinism in 4 or 5 different posts over a two month span or so), Charles Johnson, owner of LGF (Little Green Footballs), continues to fall apart at the seams and censor anyone who doesn't see eye- to- eye with him.

I am glad I am no longer a member of 'Little Green Footballs.' I'm ashamed I ever used to belong there, actually. That blog has become a disgrace.

Since being banned, I have only dropped back into LGF maybe two or three times. I no longer visit the blog (outside of those visits), since I do not want to drive up his traffic and give the impression that his blog is popular.

On one visit, I noticed he had a few entries mocking Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin - her great crime? Rejecting evolution and believing in God, apparently. At this point in time, Charles is making the fundamentalist Muslims look more open-minded compared to him.

Anyway, I was reading various conservative blogs today and came across these stories; LGF continues its proud march into Loserdom:

Atlas Shrugs vs. Little Green Footballs Part 1 - The New Fascism ....on the right

Atlas Shrugs vs. LGF Part 2 - Ah the irony ....LGF goes CAIR

Excommunicated - by Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch responding to Charles Johnson of LGF

From Gulf Coast Pundit:

Does Chuckles the Dancing Clown have a sock puppet “Guitar Guy”

Chuckles the Dancing Clown bans Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch.

Conflicting Teachings by Christians

  • Oct. 12th, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I wish that Christians would get it together and stop offering conflicting advice and teaching.

I was watching the Christian TV show The 700 Club the other day, and Gordon Robertson, I believe is his name, was hosting.

Gordon was doing the question and answer section of the show, where the show's host answers questions that people send in.

A woman wrote in and said that she was going through a very tough time in her life, and that she had heard that when one is enduring one of life's storms, when one is going through a trial, it's because God is preparing you for an out pouring of his grace (favor, blessings) to follow after the trial.

She wanted to know if this was true.

Gordon replied that no, it wasn't. He said, "Don't put God in a box."

I've heard television pastors Joel Osteen, John Hagee and others say on their TV shows that often times, when you're going through a difficult time in your life, that soon after, you can expect tremendous blessings.

Osteen seems to say that difficult times befall us because Satan knows that God is just about to bless us in a very big way, so Satan does whatever he can to discourage us.

Hagee often uses ancient Israel as an illustration: he says that just as God allowed the ancient Jews to suffer and wander in the desert for 40 years before He blessed them, that this too is how God operates in the life of a believer today (i.e., trial and tribulation is followed by blessing).

Well, which is it?

Should I believe what Mr. Robertson says, that no, a trial in my life is not a set-up by God to prepare me for blessing afterwards?
Or should I believe Osteen and Hagee and hope that once my trial ends, I can expect good things from God?

I can see evidence for either view in the Scriptures, but I think the Osteen and Hagee view at least offers a believer hope.

It makes me feel better to think the pain I'm in now will eventually come to an end, and God will make it up to me by blessing me in some manner.

I realize that the Prosperity Gospel is bunk.

There are TV preachers out there who tell you if you pray and believe in faith that God will send you a brand new car or house, that whatever you ask will be yours.

On one level, I can see how such prayers and desires can be selfish and inappropriate.

On the other hand, if a Christian has a dream, and that dream is to one day own a particular home, I don't necessarily think it's wrong for that Christian to pray and ask God for that house.

Bear in mind that I'm not condoning greed and materialism here.
I do believe that the "Wealth and Health" Gospel types do put too much of an emphasis on material goods and wealth, and I also believe that such an emphasis is wrong.

On the other hand, if you've read the Bible, you do get the idea that God doesn't object to rewarding those who are faithful to Him, and often times, He rewarded the faithful with wealth.

I've heard plenty of television preachers say that if one prays for a new home or new car, that God might just provide it.

I was watching a TV preacher today, Bayless Conley, and he was criticizing a woman who went to his church for praying about a house.

(See the 'November 17, 2008 Update' below, one that demonstrates that I am correct and Bayless Conley is incorrect.)

This woman had driven past a house that she admired, told her family that she prayed to God that the house be given to her, and she had faith that one day it would be hers.

For some reason, this disturbed the woman's family, so they called Bayless Connley and said, "Look, this concerns us; it bothers us. She just started going to your church, will you speak to her about this?"

So Conley did.

Conley essentially told the viewers on his television show that the woman's desire or prayer was incorrect.

He said he asked this woman, "Does someone live in this house now?"

She said, "Yes."

He also asked her if she had a job or any money, and she replied "No" to both.

He then reminded the audience about the Bible verse that says that if a man will not work he will not eat.

The bottom line is, this Conley guy apparently thinks that this woman was being unrealistic and selfish in this instance.

Conley was certainly painting a picture of this woman in such a way that we were to think of her as being foolish, greedy, unbiblical, selfish, or all those things.

I'm not so sure she was any of those things.

So she saw a house she wanted and prayed about it and even believed that God would allow her to own it; I don't see anything wrong with that.

The Bible says that it is God Himself who gives us the desires of our hearts.

That is, if this woman wanted that particular house, there might be a chance that God was the One who placed that desire in her heart.

Maybe God wanted her to want that house for some reason.

I do agree with the biblical teaching that not working means that one will not eat (you have to have money to buy food, and one usually earns money by holding down a job, after all), but I don't think such verses are necessarily true at all times, for all people, in all situations.

For example, when Jesus was engaged in His ministry, he was not earning an income (in the sense that we think of it; He was not showing up at an office and working from 9 to 5), so He did not have the money to pay a tax.

Therefore, God the Father provided the funds for Jesus in the form of a coin that was in the mouth of a fish, so that He could pay the tax. (See Matthew chapter 17 verses 24 through 27 in the Holy Bible; or
click here to read it at Bible Gateway.)

In other words, just because this woman at Conley's church was broke and jobless does not mean there was no way she could never own her dream home.

If it was in God's will for her to own that house one day, then He would provide a way for her to own it.

Perhaps God would allow her to win the lottery; perhaps God would arrange it so that the current home owner would will the house to her upon his death.

There are many, many other ways God could provide that woman with a home without her having to have her own money or a job.

I think the specific verse Conley mentions comes from 2 Thessalonians 3:10, and I'm not even sure if it applies to someone dreaming of owning a particular home.

Maybe there was a reason this woman at Conley's church was unemployed.

If she has mental health problems, that could be what is preventing her from holding down employment. Maybe she had physical health reasons that kept her from holding down a job. 


At any rate, this is yet another example of various preachers giving us advice and views that do not mesh.

Some pastors preach that it is acceptable to ask God for a home, a better job, or a car, while others depict this as being a silly, greedy, immoral, unrealistic, or selfish thing to do.

Here's another topic where some Christians clash:

There is a Bible verse which says something to the effect of "And by His stripes we are healed."

Some Christians -especially the ones I see on television (usually the "Wealth and Health" Gospel types)- say this means that Christians can rebuke disease and illness (or pray for a healing) and expect a healing, while other Christians say that no, this is an incorrect understanding of that passage.

I wish all these guys would get on the same page already.

~November 17, 2008 Update~

I was watching Pat Robertson and his female co-host on The 700 Club today, reporting a story about a married couple who were broke.

I think they were jobless, too, though I'm not sure. I didn't catch the couple's name or the details of their story.

(Edit: I caught a repeat of the same episode of the show. The couple's names are Gary and Sandra Carpenter. They now live in Lemon Grove, California. They had worked as missionaries when they were younger, which is why they never had much money.)

This story can probably be found on The 700 Club web site here.

Anyway, this married couple prayed for a house, and God gave them a beautiful house in Florida, and they got the house for free!

That proves the point I was making above:  God will sometimes provide people with what they pray for, even a house, even if they do not have money or employment.

In other words, that Bayless Conley guy was wrong: he was insisting that God cannot or will not provide a house at no charge for a woman who was broke and jobless; however-

As the story on The 700 Club revealed, God will, can, and does give things to people for free, even if they are unemployed and poor.

eHarmony Scam Dating Site

  • Sep. 5th, 2008 at 10:29 PM
- EDIT / UPDATE -
Sept 9, 2008


Only a day or two after I first wrote this post, I got a letter from eHarmony.com telling me that if I sign up for a 3-month membership that they will take 50% off their fee.

I have no intention of ever giving them more money.

In the three or four years my profile has been on their database, I've received only seven, eight or so matches, and all of those were within the first four months.

The first month I was with them, I was not a paid member. Then I decided to sign up for a 3 month trial, where I paid them a fee.

To sum things up, I've been on their database for around three or more years now, and during that whole time, I've gotten only a tiny number of matches, and all of them were up front, when I was brand new with the service.
---END UPDATE---

I got an automated e-mail from eHarmony awhile ago.

I rarely logged in to my eHarmony account.

Now, I did log in every now and then anytime they sent me one of those automated messages saying, "To keep your profile active in our data base, we need for you to log in."

However, it seems to me it's been a year or more since I got one of those.

I first joined eHarmony in late 2005. I paid for a three month trial.

During that time, I was given around 8 or 9 matches (none of them worked out; most of the guys didn't bother dropping me a line, so I deleted them).

I noticed that when I stopped paying, all my matches dried up.

It is now Fall 2008. Can you believe from early 2006 to late 2008, I have not received a SINGLE match from eHarmony, (and again, this is after I stopped paying them)?

Under my preferences at eHarmony, I state that I am willing to date anyone in the same nation. So it's not my geographical preferences that are limiting anything.

The worst part of this, I'm afraid, is that eHarmony sort of presents itself as a "Christian" type dating site, and yet, they are rather dishonest.

I find it very hard to believe that a single, educated, attractive, young (age 30-something) thing such as myself has absolutely no matches out there over a three year period.

When I joined Face Book and added the "Are you interested?" application (all of which is FREE), I've gotten many, many requests from single males who want to befriend me or date me, and all within a period of a few weeks.

So please, folks at eHarmony, explain to me how I can be a member of your service for approximately three years, get only a very limited number of matches during my PAID three month membership, then spend the next three years totally ignored by you and your matching system, and yet join a FREE service and get upwards of 30 or more matches within a matter of a few WEEKS?

There's something deceptive about eHarmony. eHarmony is a fraud, a scam, and a rip off. 

LINKS:
Why You Shouldn't Waste Time or Money on eHarmony

Google results page for: "eHarmony Scam"

Google results page for: "eHarmony fraud"

Google results page for: "eHarmny ripoff"

Google results page for: "I hate eHarmony"

Here are excerpts from the first link above:
The most interesting closed match is the one that eHarmony closed by accident.

As usual, I received an email indicating they found a new match, logged in, and sent the first questions to her.

A few days later, I noticed that she was not in my list of people I was communicating with.

I went to my closed page and saw her listed. I clicked to see what the reason was for the match being closed and found that I had closed the match and that the reason was an invalid string.

I contacted technical support who told me that I had closed the match (I most certainly did not), a glitch had occurred in the database so no one knows why the match was closed, and that they would try to contact her to see if she was still interested in communicating.

Weeks have gone by, and I'm confident I will not hear from her again. It wasn't until I discovered additional bugs with eHarmony that they admitted I did not close the match and that they have a known bug they are working to resolve.

The second problem I had with eHarmony was trying to reply to a match (my first open match) that wrote to me through their on-line email. I did exactly what they recommend. I wrote my response in Word so it would be spell checked, copied the text into the reply text box, and clicked send.

Of course, it didn't actually send. I tested the behavior to ensure it was repeatable and it was. I have a master's in computer science, and have worked in tech support before. I wrote an email to them summarizing the problem and included information about my computer, operating system, etc.

The response I got was a standard form asking most of the questions I already answered in my first email.

I responded by filling out the form and mentioned that this was included in my first email.

We went back and forth with them asking me to turn off firewalls (which I didn't have on) disable virus scanners (which I don't use) enable cookies (which already were).

At no point did I get the impression that they actually tried to create the problem using the information I sent them.

They did send messages to my 2 matches from my account which looked like they came from me.

Had they followed my instructions they would have recreated the problem, but they did not listen. So messages went to my matches saying 'test do not reply' and nothing else. I had asked them to set up a new test match so they would not interfere with my attempts to communicate with my real matches. They said it was not possible to do this.

I finally asked them to call me since it was over three weeks and we had not solved the problem. Their reply said they would call me within 2 days. I heard nothing for 5 days and decided to remind them that they owed me a phone call still. Finally, a week later I got a call from them.

First question - what operating system do you use? It was like they had never heard from me before.

To make it even more annoying, I was talking with the same individual I had been emailing!

After nearly an hour on the phone, we confirmed that I had found a bug. So for a month, I had been unable to reply to matches using their recommended approach.

Fortunately, I was able to figure out some work-arounds, and after explaining the random messages they received, all hope was not lost.

I hate Live Journal

  • Sep. 5th, 2008 at 10:24 PM
It takes forever for the Live Journal page to download - also, I'm on dial-up.

I had to sit here a million years to wait while all the advertisments and what all downloaded before the text box became active! What a rip off.

These Live Journal people need to re-design their pages to make them download faster.

Not everyone on the web is using cable, you know.
Little Green Footballs Fumbles the Ball by Making False Claims about Discovery Institute, Islam, and Intelligent Design

The blog site Little Green Footballs has slandered Discovery Institute, whether intentionally or not, by implying that we are in league with Islamic radicals in Turkey.

They base this fantasy, apparently, on a CBC radio report of a year ago that was so poorly researched that it called Discovery Senior Fellow David Berlinski "Paul Berlinski" and referred to us as the "Christian Discovery organization."
Then they interview a host of people of varying views in Turkey who are critical of Darwinism and imply that they are all connected.

They seemingly imply Discovery's involvement in this situation based on the fact that Berlinski was invited to speak at a conference held by the municipal government of Istanbul last year. Big deal. (Berlinski, by the way, is a secular Jew, so work with that fact for a while, boys.)

If people at LGF think they can make the case that Discovery Institute is somehow soft on Islamic radicalism and terrorists, perhaps they should pick up a copy of our Senior Fellow John Wohlstetter's new book, The Long War Ahead: And the Short War Upon Us.

It is published by Discovery Institute Press and I challenge the LGF folks to read it—or any of my own writings on the Iraq War and the war on terrorism generally—and continue contending that this institute would ever have any truck with people—Muslim or otherwise—who doubt the danger of Islamic fascism.

Both the LGF blog and the CBC story have a naïve and simplistic understanding of the politics of Turkey today. As it happens, on most issues, including foreign policy, the more leftist party in Turkey is the "secularist" one that is now out of power.

The Justice and Development Party (AKP), known as an Islamist party, is the more moderate party. That doesn’t mean that they are ideal.

But it does mean that they are more willing, ironically, to advance freedom in the economy and religion and to support the U.S. in the war against terrorists. Christians overall backed that party in the last elections, which tells you which party they think is most tolerant.

Prominent Jews have found them easier to work with. (Turkey recognizes Israel, by the way.)

The European and American press, by and large, preferred them in the last elections. The secularists in Turkey, in contrast, for several decades have been the most repressive against all religions, as well as the more xenophobic on international affairs and trade.

Incidentally, the government has recently arrested members of an extreme Islamist group that it claims were planning a terrorist attack on the government!

I realize that this picture doesn't accord with one’s expectations—or, maybe I should say, prejudices. It also doesn’t mean that issues, like whether women in universities and businesses will be allowed to wear headscarves, are trivial. But it does suggest that there is nothing wrong with attending conferences put on by the Turkish government.

Within Turkey there also are different people who are anti-Darwinian—just as in the U.S. Some are, indeed, creationists and could be called fundamentalists within Islam. Many are not.

There is one controversial creationist who goes by the pen name Harun Yahya and has published a lavish book against Darwinism and has raised the ire of the government on other grounds, but we have no connection with him or his products.

In contrast, we definitely do appreciate knowing Mustafa Akyol, a very different writer whose columns appear in the Turkish Daily News in Istanbul and the Washington Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Weekly Standard in the U.S. He is cited favorably by such publications as Newsweek and U.S. News and World Report.

For a time, Akyol volunteered with Harun Yahya’s group, but he broke with it in 2003, sharply disagreeing with many of its views, especially its link to anti-semitism. Akyol is not a creationist and he does support intelligent design.

He also is pro-West, pro-religious tolerance, pro-free markets and anti-terrorist. The Economist rightly describes Akyol as "an advocate of reconciliation between Muslims and the West who is much in demand at conferences on the future of Islam" and who believes in "the compatibility between Islam and Western liberal ideals, including human rights and capitalism."

(By the way, the Economist erroneously says that Akyol had a "fellowship at Discovery Institute." Akyol has not received funding from Discovery, but he did help organize the city-sponsored conference where Berlinksi appeared.)

Would LGF like to smear Akyol because they disagree with his support for design? Are they willing to smear Discovery because we know and like Mustafa Akyol? It is bizarre!

Jul. 24th, 2008

  • 8:05 PM
No Nonsense
by Do-While Jones

Scientific American claims to have “15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense”. But the answers, not the questions, are nonsense.

According to Scientific American, creationists use fifteen arguments that are “nonsense”. We will look at all fifteen, in order, and see if they really are nonsense . This month we will examine the first seven, and the next month we will look at the last eight.

It is “Just a Theory”

The first argument creationists use, according to Scientific American, is

1. Evolution is only a theory. It is not a fact or a scientific law. 1

Serious creationists rarely, if ever, use this argument. We have been publishing this newsletter for almost six years. We invite you to look through all the back issues, and you will see we have never used it.

But some “casual creationists”, who don’t believe in evolution but don’t really know why, sometimes do dismiss evolution because it is “just a theory.” We saw the argument used once in a letter to the editor of our local newspaper. So, we really can’t blame Scientific American for attacking this idea. Their argument is,

Many people learned in elementary school that a theory falls in the middle of a hierarchy of certainty--above a mere hypothesis but below a law. Scientists do not use the terms that way, however. 2
This is actually an indictment of the public school system. They should not be blaming creationists for this misunderstanding if it is what is taught in public schools.

One place where we have seen this “hierarchy of certainty” expressed is at the Chicago Field Museum of Natural History (which certainly isn’t a cesspool of creationist propaganda). We told you about their “Facts, Theories, and Speculation” display in our December, 2001, newsletter.

The Field Museum presents a theory as being somewhere between a fact and speculation on the continuum of certainty. So, blame the public schools, and blame the Field Museum, too, if you are going to blame creationists.

Usually, when evolutionists try to combat the “only a theory” argument, they drag gravity into it. They say Newton’s theory of gravity is “just a theory, too.”

The difference between gravity and evolution, of course, is that one can do repeatable experiments to test the theory of gravity. Engineers can measure the amount of force it takes to stretch a spring a certain length.

Then, they hang various masses from the spring and measure how far it stretches. From this they can determine the force of gravity pulling on the mass.

Furthermore, the theory of gravity made some interesting predictions. Astronomers noted that some of the outer planets did not orbit in the path one would expect. They calculated that some other gravitation force must be acting on them.

From that they calculated where an unknown planet must be. They looked in that location and discovered Pluto. The theory of gravity predicted a planet of a particular size in a particular orbit, and it turned out to be a correct prediction.

The theory of evolution isn’t like the theory of gravity. We have neither the time, talent, nor the material to build a lifeless planet just like Earth orbiting around a star just like the Sun to see if life will evolve on it after a few billion years.

But we can perform some interesting experiments on a smaller scale. Many scientists have done experiments trying to find some way for lifeless chemicals to assemble themselves into living cells.

Just as alchemists, after many failures, admitted that there isn’t any way to turn lead into gold, evolutionists will someday have to admit that there isn’t any way to turn brackish water into bacteria. In fact, those origin of life experiments have shown us some good reasons why chemicals can’t come to life by purely natural processes.

Breeding experiments have shown that there are limits to how much artificial selection can modify a variety. There is every reason to believe that natural selection would have the same limits as artificial selection does.

In fact, with what we now know about genes and information theory, we understand why those limits are there, and why mutation and natural selection can’t cross them.
Unlike the theory of gravity, the theory of evolution doesn’t have a lot of experimental confirmation to support it. In fact, the experimental evidence against evolution would certainly have caused the theory to have been rejected long ago, if it weren’t for the religious implications that go along with it.

The theory of evolution doesn’t have a very good record when it comes to prediction, either. Darwin said that the fossil record should show innumerable transitional forms. It doesn’t. The “Cambrian explosion” of fossils is not what would be expected if the theory of evolution were true.

Evolutionists first tried to explain away the scientific observations by saying that there were gaps in the fossil record. More recently, they have tried to explain it away with “punctuated equilibrium” (which we have discussed on several occasions, the most recent being last month).
If evolution were true, there would not be such clear divisions between classes, orders, and families. It should be really hard to decide if certain living creatures were reptiles or mammals because there should be innumerable living transitional forms.
So, serious creationists don’t reject evolution because it is “only a theory.” They reject it because it is a theory that is not consistent with modern scientific observation.

Circular Reasoning


2. Natural selection is based on circular reasoning: the fittest are those who survive, and those who survive are deemed fittest. 3
Actually, we would say that statement is a tautology, which is a special case of circular reasoning because it is a self-defining relationship. It is “true by virtue of its logical form alone.” 4

Scientific American is misrepresenting the creationist argument here because this isn’t the circular reasoning that serious creationists usually attack.

We attack the more subtle forms of circular reasoning, where the rocks are dated by the evolutionary ages of the fossils, and the evolutionary ages of the fossils are determined from the ages of the rocks containing them.

We also love to point out that the type of radioactive dating used to determine the age of rocks is selected based on the presumed age of the rocks. Then, when the radioactive measurement gives the expected age, it is assumed to be correct, and all other radioactive “minority reports” are immediately destroyed to avoid the confusion and doubt that would certainly result.
Creationists generally don’t have a problem with the definition of “survival of the fittest.” Nor do they disagree with the minor, short-term effects that environmental pressure has on the survival of the various varieties of critters in general, and Darwin’s finches in particular. Scientific American’s second answer is an irrelevant rebuttal of a bogus argument.

Evolution isn’t Testable

Scientific American says creationists claim that,

3. Evolution is unscientific, because it is not testable or falsifiable. It makes claims about events that were not observed and can never be re-created.

This blanket dismissal of evolution ignores important distinctions that divide the field into at least two broad areas: microevolution and macroevolution. Microevolution looks at changes within species over time--changes that may be preludes to speciation, the origin of new species. Macroevolution studies how taxonomic groups above the level of species change. Its evidence draws frequently from the fossil record and DNA comparisons to reconstruct how various organisms may be related.

These days even most creationists acknowledge that microevolution has been upheld by tests in the laboratory (as in studies of cells, plants and fruit flies) and in the field (as in Grant's studies of evolving beak shapes among Galápagos finches). Natural selection and other mechanisms--such as chromosomal changes, symbiosis and hybridization--can drive profound changes in populations over time. 5
Well, evolution certainly does make “claims about events that were not observed and can never be re-created.” But, in answer to their first statement, we have already discussed how some major concepts of the theory of evolution are testable and falsifiable. These parts fail because they make inaccurate predictions, or contradict repeatable observations.
Experiments regarding the origin of life have shown that life cannot have a purely natural origin. Breeding experiments do confirm microevolution, and also reveal why macroevolution cannot happen.
But some of the major claims of evolution, such as the claim that reptiles evolved into mammals, never have been observed, nor have they been repeated. Scientific American is just blowing smoke when it says, “Macroevolution studies how taxonomic groups above the level of species change. Its evidence draws frequently from the fossil record and DNA comparisons to reconstruct how various organisms may be related.”
Reconstructions based on fossils and DNA are pure speculation, and often contradictory. The attempt to associate microevolution, for which there is abundant scientific evidence, with macroevolution, which is contradicted by so much scientific evidence, is shameless.
Scientific American says, “Natural selection and other mechanisms--such as chromosomal changes, symbiosis and hybridization--can drive profound changes in populations over time.” This is a perfect example of what we discussed last month, in the article on “Individual Evolution”. What does Scientific American mean by “profound changes in populations?” Since it is certainly true that natural selection, mutations, and cross breeding of different varieties of the same species can change the demographics of a population, their statement (with the possible exception of symbiosis) is true. But they aren’t just talking about demographics. They no doubt are saying that an isolated population can turn into a population of an entirely new species, which is utterly false.
They are using a rhetorical trick which, in debate, is called “the fallacy of the middle term.” For example, if Paul is taller than Jim, and Jim is taller than Dave, it must be true that Paul is taller than Dave because both are compared to Jim, which is a common middle term.
Given a term with two different meanings, an unethical person can establish that one meaning is true, then use the term as if the other meaning is true. The classic example is, “Nothing is better than complete happiness. Half a sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore, half a sandwich is better than complete happiness.” The middle term, “nothing”, has two different meanings. It is a fallacy of the middle term because although it appears there are three terms, there are actually four different terms which have been mapped to three different words, with two terms having different meanings for the same word.
Evolutionists use the term “evolution” to mean "a change in demographics" (which has been scientifically verified) in one breath, and then macroevolution in the next breath, and try to make you think that they are the same thing. They aren’t. The change in demographics is the result of the increase or decrease in the number of individuals in the population who have certain previously existing genes. Macroevolution requires the creation of brand new genes. Even though both processes are called “evolution”, they are entirely different processes.
The really amazing statement in their third answer to “creationist nonsense” is,

Evolution could be disproved in other ways, too. If we could document the spontaneous generation of just one complex life-form from inanimate matter, then at least a few creatures seen in the fossil record might have originated this way. If superintelligent aliens appeared and claimed credit for creating life on earth (or even particular species), the purely evolutionary explanation would be cast in doubt. But no one has yet produced such evidence. [emphasis supplied] 6

They really shot themselves in their proverbial feet there! The point they are trying to make is that if there was any scientific evidence that inanimate matter came to life once, then inanimate matter might have come to life many times.

If matter came to life many times, then there would not be one common ancestor, and each major biological group would have had a different origin. But since scientific experiments prove that inanimate matter cannot possibly come to life, they say, it must only have happened once!
The truth is that there is no documentation of spontaneous generation of even one complex life-form from inanimate matter because it has never happened--not even once. That refutes the theory of evolution (as it is taught in public schools) because it is “dead on arrival.”
According to the grand theory of evolution, life began in a warm pond full of inanimate amino acids (or someplace very hot, or somplace very cold). Therefore, inanimate matter had to form something living that could reproduce offspring that natural selection could select from. But, as they point out, there is no evidence that this has ever happened.
(Of course, one superintelligent alien has appeared and claimed credit for creating life on earth, but we are just going to let their statement lie there without further comment.)

Scientists Doubt the Theory

The most amusing part of the Scientific American article was their fourth point.

4. Increasingly, scientists doubt the truth of evolution.

No evidence suggests that evolution is losing adherents. 7

Do you think they really believe that? If so, why did they publish an eight-page article defending evolution? They haven’t published proof of the round earth.

That’s because scientists don’t take the flat earth theory seriously. But they did have to try to defend the theory of evolution because it is losing adherents, even among scientists.

Their words and actions don’t match. If evolution isn’t losing adherents, what is all the big fuss about?

They know that the theory of evolution really is losing adherents at an unprecedented rate. The editors of Scientific American said as much in the first three sentences of the editorial they wrote to introduce the feature article.
Preaching to the converted is unrewarding, so why should Scientific American publish an article about the errors of creationism [see page 78]? Surely this magazine’s readers don’t need to be convinced. Unfortunately, skepticism of evolution is more rampant than might be supposed. 8

Last month we told you that Eugenie C. Scott got this year’s Public Service Award from the National Science Board. In her acceptance speech she said the award “highlights the importance of scientists taking the anti-evolution movement seriously.”
Scientific American showed this graph on page 81. They didn’t refer to it specifically in their article because they apparently thought it spoke for itself.
We wonder what they think it said. Probably, they think it shows that highly educated people don’t believe in young-earth creationism.

We think that it really shows that the longer evolutionists are allowed to brainwash students, the more successful they will be. But, even after at least 16 years of brainwashing, 40 percent of the people still won’t believe the lie they are being taught.

Almost 30 percent of the people with advanced degrees don’t believe in evolution.

If the theory of evolution were true, that number would be zero. It isn't zero because many well-educated people can see the bankruptcy of the theory of evolution, despite years of evolutionary indoctrination.
Don’t let them tell you that they aren’t scared! They are either panicking, or in denial, or both.

Disagreements Indicate Lack of Evidence

Their next point was,

5. The disagreements among even evolutionary biologists show how little solid science supports evolution.

Evolutionary biologists passionately debate diverse topics: how speciation happens, the rates of evolutionary change, the ancestral relationships of birds and dinosaurs, whether Neandertals were a species apart from modern humans, and much more. These disputes are like those found in all other branches of science. Acceptance of evolution as a factual occurrence and a guiding principle is nonetheless universal in biology. 9
These disputes are NOT like those found in all other branches of science. For example, there was briefly a dispute about cold fusion, but it was quickly resolved because the experiments could not be reproduced, and the “excess heat” that was allegedly measured could be accounted for by experimental error.
There aren’t even disputes like these in non-evolutionary biology. When was the last time you read a headline that said, “Biologists now say the liver, not the heart, actually pumps blood!” ?
The reason why there are debates about evolutionary topics is because the things being discussed are matters of opinion, not scientific facts. Somebody finds a part of a jaw and thinks it came from a human ancestor. A second scientist (who usually has also discovered a part of a jaw, which he claims came from a human ancestor) says the first scientist is wrong. There is more ego involved than evidence. Objectivity is distorted by the desire (perhaps even the need) to have bragging rights.
If there really was some solid evidence that one kind of species has ever turned into another kind of species, biologists would agree on it, just as they agree on the function of internal organs.
Scientific American also says in this section,
Yet creationists delight in dissecting out phrases from Gould's voluminous prose to make him sound as though he had doubted evolution … 10

No, we don’t think Gould doubted evolution. We do, however, point out that facts he himself presented did not support the conclusions he drew.

He knew that the fossil record contained no transitional forms, or other evidence for evolution. That’s why he came up with punctuated equilibrium. It was his rationalization of how evolution could be true, despite the fossil record as he knew it.

Nobody would care if we said, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils. But the fact that he said it 11 makes it worth quoting.
Scientific American
goes on to say

.. and they [creationists] present punctuated equilibrium as though it allows new species to materialize overnight or birds to be born from reptile eggs. 12

Actually, Scientific American is confusing Goldschmidt’s “hopeful monster theory” with Gould’s theory of punctuated equilibrium.

The hopeful monster theory is like punctuated equilibrium on steroids.

Although the two theories differ in the amount of evolution that can take place in a single generation, both eventually have to confront the problem that a reptilian parent had to have had a mammalian child at some point for either theory to be true.

According to either theory, something without a backbone gave birth to something that did. These are facts that evolutionists don’t like to face.

Why Do Monkeys Still Exist?

6. If humans descended from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

This surprisingly common argument reflects several levels of ignorance about evolution. The first mistake is that evolution does not teach that humans descended from monkeys; it states that both have a common ancestor. 13
We have never heard a serious creationist make this argument. We invite you to search the back issues of our newsletter to verify for yourself that we have never used the argument. We don’t think you will find it on the Answers In Genesis, or Institute For Creation Research Site, either.

Ironically, children are often taught in public schools that people descended from monkeys.

Students are likely to be confused by that and ask their teachers, “If humans descended from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? ”. Again, the criticism should be leveled against the public school science curriculum, not creationists.
As Scientific American said, it is more accurate to say that the theory of evolution says that both humans and apes descended from a common UNKNOWN ancestor, the existence of which one must accept by faith.

The Origin of Life

7. Evolution cannot explain how life first appeared on earth.

The origin of life remains very much a mystery, but biochemists have learned about how primitive nucleic acids, amino acids and other building blocks of life could have formed and organized themselves into self-replicating, self-sustaining units, laying the foundation for cellular biochemistry. [emphasis supplied] 14

Evolution certainly cannot explain how life first appeared on Earth. The origin of life does remain very much a mystery. There is no nonsense there!

But biochemists have NOT learned how primitive nucleic acids, amino acids and other building blocks of life could have formed and organized themselves into self-replicating, self-sustaining units, laying the foundation for cellular biochemistry.

In fact, they now know many more reasons why chemicals can’t spontaneously form something living than they did in the 1950’s. The more they study the origin of life, the more apparent it is that life could not have formed spontaneously.
The hate mail we get often includes statements to the effect that we don’t understand evolution because the theory of evolution says nothing about the origin of life.

It is true that Darwinian evolution just attempts to explain how existing species change into other species, and says nothing about the origin of life.

But, when we talk about evolution, we are talking about the theory of evolution as it is taught in the American public schools.

American school children are taught that primitive nucleic acids, amino acids and other building blocks of life could have formed and organized themselves into self-replicating, self-sustaining units, laying the foundation for cellular biochemistry.
Many evolutionists want desperately to separate the origin of life from the origin of species because they know that spontaneous generation of life is impossible. But they really can’t do that because the theory of evolution is supposed to explain how we got here without any supernatural activity creating life. They have to include the origin of life for it to explain how we got here.
The theory of evolution is quite literally, “dead on arrival.” It begins with lifeless chemicals on a lifeless planet. Somehow the theory of evolution needs to get those lifeless chemicals to combine to form something living, which can be transformed by mutation and natural selection. It can’t do it.
Ironically, in answer number 3 and answer number 7, Scientific American admitted that there isn’t a single documented case of inanimate chemicals coming to life, and that the origin of life is a mystery. We are quoting them not to make it appear that they doubt evolution, but to show that they believe in evolution in spite of evidence they are fully ware of.

To Be Continued …

Unfortunately, we are out of space, so we will have to conclude this essay next month.

Recrudescent Religion

  • Jul. 24th, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Recrudescent Religion is a blog about Creationism and evolution, in support of Creationism.

Here is a sample post:

Scientific Conceits

23 July 2008 at 9:31 am

If you debate the creationism/evolutionism controversy for any length of time, you will invariably run into evolutionists who will tell you to “learn some science”. Aside from the obvious arrogance and conceit that this statement shows, this “argument” is annoying because of the assumption that it carries with it implicitly - the assumption that “science” is constituted only by those fields of study which evolutionists consider important for proving evolution, primarily evolutionary biology, palaeontology, and speculative cosmology. I suppose that everything else isn’t really science - all those other fields of study (often much more empirical, falsifiable, and testable than the areas beloved by evolutionists!) that don’t involve “proving” evolution through creative reconstruction of entire proto-human skeletons from one or two peccary bones just don’t fit the bill.

As an advanced-degree holding chemist who now works in the pharmaceutical industry researching chromatographic separations for proteins involved in vaccine development, I find that a tad insulting.

I know this will come as a shock to the minions of P.Z. Myers and Richard Dawkins, but “evolution” is entirely irrelevant to the large majority of scientific fields. Evolution is really only a necessary philosophical assumption in a handful of disciplines: evolutionary biology, palaeontology, speculative cosmology; and to a lesser extent in some areas of genetics and geology. But as far as chemistry, physics, materials science, engineering, applied areas of biology, astronomy, and meteorology - to name a few - are concerned, evolution is completely superfluous.

Further, the way in which science is conducted in evolution-necessary fields leaves one less than sure that evolutionists really know what the scientific method is. I’ve noticed that evolutionists often seem to conduct science the way the ancient Greeks conducted science - and this is not meant to be complimentary. Greek science was largely speculative. It relied little upon actual experimentation and falsifiability. The Greeks did make some important discoveries - Archimedes’ founding of the field of hydrostatics and the screw pump and Eratosthenes’ calculation of the earth’s circumference come to mind - but overall, Greek science was neither systematic nor was it “rational” by today’s definition. Often, “science” served the interests of philosophy. While Democritus may have developed an atomic theory, it was completely non-empirical and was meant to service his philosophical ideas, not explicate an objective understanding of our material existence. Aristotle, grand man that he was, had a hit or miss approach, and Greek medicine was nearly always wrong.

With evolutionism, “science” also serves a philosophical worldview. Often, actual empiricism and experimentability are left out in the cold. For instance, much of evolutionary biology is speculative. I discussed homology in an earlier post - homology is speculative. It relies upon the assumption that because two structures “look similar”, then they must have a common origin - which is an assumption not validated by empirical testing. That’s not “science” in the traditionally accepted sense of the word, though it may be based upon what are assumed to be “good educated guesses”. The whole process of “rebuilding” entire skeletons of early evolutionary ancestors of man, often when the only actual tangible evidence we have consists of a few bones, is an exercise in wishful thinking and guesstimation.

As I’ve said before on a number of different forums, I believe that neither creationism nor evolutionism are “science” in the empirical, testable sense of the word. Both rely upon circumstantial evidences, and both are informed by non-empirical worldviews. As a creationist, I can accept this. It’s time for the evolutionists to accept it as well.

The Darwin Inquistion at LGF

  • Jul. 24th, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Charles of LGF  (www.littlegreenfootballs.com) banned Babba Zee for linking to a post by Gagdad Bob, specifically this one: Proof of Proof is Proof of God, at her blog.

Charles referred to the post as being "vicious," but I don't see what's so vicious about it.

It's dated July 21, 2008; here is a long excerpt:

....I wanted to offer some reflections on something I read at Just Thomism, entitled Evidence For God. I'm going to expand upon it a bit for the purposes of drawing attention to myself and impressing the chicks, but if you read the post, you will see that I am largely playgiaphrasing with the original.

If someone asks what the evidence is for the expanding universe, one could give a simple three word answer: “the red shift.” However, this answer is unlikely to be persuasive or even make sense to someone who doesn't already have a background in science.

For example, if you say it to a primitive person, or to someone with a high school diploma from one of our liberal-run schools, they will probably just give you a blank stare.

Furthermore, even if you ask the average person why they believe in the big bang, or global warming, they won't be able to tell you. Rather, they will simply be relying upon authority, or "thinking with the head of another."

Suffice it to say that you are in much safer hands if you are "thinking with the head of Aquinas" than with the head of Dawkins.

To "think" in the latter manner is to accept materialism on faith and authority -- except that there is no "truth" or "understanding" at the end of the line, just incomprehensibility and absurdity. This is "stupidity as such" masquerading as wisdom.

You could go on to provide a basic explanation of the red shift based upon the behavior of light we see from distant parts of the universe, but this is again unlikely to be convincing enough to overturn the common sense and everyday empirical observation of a scientifically untutored person who can see with his own eyes that the universe is obviously not expanding.

In an analogous way, if someone asks for evidence of God, we might say "truth," or "beauty," or "virtue." For a soul of sufficient purity and depth, this will be an adequate argument, especially once the implications are fully appreciated and worked out in an ontologically consistent manner.

However, materialists, Darwinists, Lizards [LGF blog members], and other metaphysical yahoos imagine that they can reject the whole of religion based upon a single argument taken out of context, just as a savage could reject the big bang based upon the obvious empirical evidence that refutes it.

Thus, as Just Thomism explains, both types of primitives "want more than evidence; they want the whole science by which their mind could be moved by the evidence" (emphasis mine). They essentially want to see the tree that will prove the existence of the forest, when the forest is on a different ontological level than the tree.

Do you see the dilemma? We get the occasional materialistic barbarian who demands "proof of God," but this is certainly no less difficult to provide than proof of the Big Bang to an eight year-old, which, even if you accept it, doesn't mean you actually understand it.

Rather, you are accepting it based upon the authority of hordes of scientists who have worked out the math and physics to come up with the theory, a theory that is also grounded in a paradigm full of assumptions about how the universe works.

In turn, many of these assumptions cannot be accounted for by the paradigm, as per Gödel, but the experts don't concern themselves with that. Science is science, not metaphysics, so few scientists care that their paradigm is irrevocably incomplete or inconsistent.

Bear in mind that we are usually dealing with an unintelligent person who is demanding evidence that would satisfy his intellect. Now, this is something I could never do, as I have long since forgotten how to be so stupid. In this regard, I take full responsibility for my failure to persuade trolls that the Permanent Real necessarily exists as a first principle.

Likewise, in order for my intellect to be persuaded by the arguments of Dawkins, or Harris, or Charles Johnson, I would have to extinguish my intellect and become stupid, plus ignore years of experiential/phenomenological evidence.

First of all, mere logic and evidence are going to be insufficient for these people, being that they are not inclined to accept it to begin with, nor are they willing to undergo the traditional means of verifying the truths of religion.

Furthermore, Just Thomism makes the key point that "what is usually meant by evidence" for the flatland materialist is evidence that will be persuasive to a hostile opponent in the heated context of a verbal combat or short debate -- or “evidence that I can just look at and immediately understand the whole scientific or religious structure in which it reveals itself as evidence.”

As Just Thomism properly notes, "Under this restriction, there is no 'evidence' for God’s existence, or for any other scientific, mathematical, logical, or academic truth."

Also, Schuon notes that "in the spiritual order a proof is of assistance only to the man who wishes to understand, and who, by virtue of this wish, has already in some measure understood; it is of no practical use to one who, deep in his heart, does not want to change his position, and whose philosophy merely expresses this desire."

Other blog entries of interest at Gagdad Bob's blog:

Darwinists and Their Cosmic Delusions of Adequacy (June 19, 2008)

Lizards and Mammals and Men, Oh My! (June 17, 2008)

God, Intelligent Design, and Other Things that Cannot Not Be (June 15, 2008)

For those who are interested, here are the posts tagged with "evolution" at Babba Zee's blog, The Outraged Spleen of Zion (what a weird name for a blog).

I think Babba Zee claims to be a Christian, but if so, I don't understand her casual use of vulgar language; her blog is consistently peppered with the words "sh*t" and "f*ck." We are instructed in the New Testament to refrain from using coarse language.

Tithing - is it Biblical?

  • Jul. 19th, 2008 at 7:11 PM
I often hear preachers on Christian networks telling their audiences that they must tithe, and they usually attempt to get them to do so by scaring them: if you don't tithe your ten percent, they say, God will bring calamity upon you in some form or another.

I'm not sure what to make of the topic myself, other than to say, why do the TV preachers always insist that viewers send them their donations?

Why don't the TV preachers encourage people to give their funds to the church down their street?

If they truly believe people should routinely give God ten percent of their income, then what difference does it matter to what Christian organization gets the money; why do they specify their own?

I just came across a book for sale on amazon.com called
Tithing Promoters Big Lies

On that page are sponsored links such as

Truth or Tradition: Tithing Vs. Giving

Excerpt:
it is important to distinguish between tithing and giving. Although tithing per se is not relevant to Christians, giving most certainly is.

As a member in particular of the Body of Christ, each Christian is to determine in his own heart how much he gives and where he allocates his resources among his brothers and sisters in Christ (2 Cor. 9:7).

The Epistles metaphor by which material giving is strongly encouraged is that of sowing and reaping—the more you sow, the more you reap (2 Cor. 9:6). “Tithing” is never mentioned.

....
Even in the Old Testament, believers understood that when they gave to God, they were opening a door, if you will, for Him to bless them in return.

This is, of course, still true, but the idea has been distorted by some Christians who teach that one must give to God before God can bless him. Thus, too many Christians are giving in order to get. No, God always gives first.

The Darwinian Obsession at LGF Continues

  • Jul. 18th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
I only just checked back into LGF (Little Green Footballs) a couple of nights ago, and again a few moments ago, and that was the first time in awhile.

I thought as long as Charles, owner of LGF, refrains from posting about Darwinism regularly (or was at least more respectful in tone to evolution opponents), then perhaps I could tolerate visits to his blog.

Not only is he continuing to post about Intelligent Design and Darwinism, but he is openly disrespectful; he opened one blog entry by out- and- out referring to Intelligent Design as a "hoax."

To clarify this further, to put it another way, referring to the intelligent design view as a "hoax" might not be so bad if it were done in the course of conversation within the thread in his own personal post, but to have it stated in a thread's official introduction is off-putting.

I am a moderator and administrator at my own discussion board. While I personally do not agree with the religious views of all my friends and visitors on the board, I try to be fair and tactful in how I go about things.

One of my board members is a self-professing Pagan, two more are Roman Catholics, and another is a Hindu, and all are aware that I am a (Non Roman Catholic) Christian.

If I really wanted to, I could use my administrator status to put a big message on the top of the board reading,
"Paganism is a big, fat, Stupid Hoax," 
"Transubstantiation and the Mass are Crocks," or
 "belief in reincarnation is idiotic."

While technically it is my board, I can say whatever I want, and I have the power to do that sort of thing, it's tantamount to shoving my beliefs down their throats, and it would be rude to knock theirs while supporting mine.

It is not that I object to a blog owner posting stories about Darwinism per se, but I have detected a "snarky," condescending attitude and undercurrent, one which is  against theists (or anyone who questions evolution) in his actions and the posts themselves.

I get the impression that Mr. Johnson has not even bothered to read the works by critics of evolution and/or supporters of Intelligent Design, including Phillip E. Johnson. Anyway.

Not only did I spot a post about Darwinism when I was there a couple of days ago, but there's been another one added since then entitled "Let's Get Rid of Darwinism."

This second, newer entry, "Let's Get Rid of Darwinism," contains the complaint that Darwinism (also known as evolution) should not be known as Darwinism.

Now that I now that the term "Darwinism" upsets the Darwinists, I'll be sure to use it regularly. :o)

Just about a month or two ago, Charles got upset when the movie Expelled attributed the causes and justifications of the Holocaust in the minds of its perpetrators to their acceptance of Darwinian concepts.

Yet, Charles has since been making posts discussing how some Islamic group or another supports creationism. And we all know that his blog is very anti-Islam.

On the face of things, the grouping of Christians and Muslims regarding an exchange on creationism or intelligent design should not seem bad, since Muslims and Christians alike do accept the book of Genesis, or an appreciation of the Old Testament, to an extent.

Both faiths, Christianity and Islam, believe in a personal creator God, so why would it be surprising when one group wants to collaborate or learn from the other on matters of creation?

It is the way in which Charles covers these stories that makes the natural 'Christian- Muslim - creation account' connection look bad.

The book of Genesis, which contains the creation account, is, of course, from the Jewish Scriptures, so on one level, I see all the derogatory posts against intelligent design or creationism as a put-down of sorts against Judaism, and most everyone in that blog tries to be very respectful of that particular faith. So the whole situation is a little odd.

Everyone at LGF laughs at conspiracy theories, especially ones that claim that Jews ("the Joooooos!") are behind everything, so I'm a little bit puzzled by the tone of one of Charles' posts.

I thought I picked up a sort of "conspiracy theory" or "tin foil hat" vibe in one of Charles' most recent Darwinian posts, where he was making something called the "Design Institute," I believe it was, sound sneaky for working with some Turkish Muslims on some project regarding intelligent design. 

The blog entry was treated as though it were some kind of big, investigative expose'.

He made it sound as though there is a smoke-filled room filled with an Intelligent Design cabal ready to implant computer chips programmed with information in favor of intelligent design into the heads of unsuspecting or unwilling university students.

Then the blog entry ends on a fear-mongering note that made me laugh; it came across as,
"and next up, these evil, dangerous intelligent design advocates, who enjoy twirling their long, dark handle-bar mustaches, will, after tying young, innocent, helpless ladies to train tracks, be coming after American students with their scary, scary intelligent design ideas, beware! Beware! Be afraid, be very afraid! Boogedy, boogedy boo!"
It appears to me, that Charles is seeking to somehow play a guilt-by-association game:

The recurring appearance of postings on the topic, as well as their tone, is meant, I believe, to give one the impression that Christians who believe that a personal God created the earth in a short time frame are no better or different than the evil, stupid, backwards jihadists who also blow up children and sky scrapers, the sort of Muslims that LGF readers mock and laugh at all the time.

In one blog entry ("...The Discovery Institute Collaborates with Turkish Creationists") there is whining that challenges to evolution are being permitted in Turkish schools, and that creationism is being taught.

How laughable: the topic of Darwinism is automatically, uncritically accepted pseudo-science presented as fact and forced on kids in American schools, and nobody is allowed to so much as question evolution in American school settings, so I find it hypocritical for Charles to complain about this situation in Turkey.

There is definitely an anti-Christian bias in how Charles is going about this Creationism / Intelligent Design coverage, but he denies it.

And this coming from a man who spends every waking moment posting about the media's anti-Israeli bias on his blog; you'd think he'd know better.

A post was just left at his blog pointing all this out, and he gave a rude reply. 

Something along the lines of, "the Christians are the ones who worked with the Turkish Muslims themselves, they made the link themselves, not me, deal with it."  - whereby he entirely missed the point that was being made, and he probably missed the point on purpose.

Why, after all, even bother making such a post to start with? Why did Charles feel the need to tell his readers that one Muslim group believes it can or should learn about intelligent design from a Christian group?

Because, obviously, he means to tar Christians with the same brush that he tars Muslims with.

Put anyone who rejects evolution (which would naturally include a number of Christians) into the same group as Muslims, who, as we all know, *wink wink, nudge nudge*, are backward savages.

I wonder if Mr. Johnson is even aware of the fact that not all Christians are against evolution?

Unfortunately, some Christians have attempted to reconcile Darwinism with the Bible, so that we now have all manner of nonsense being taught and believed in Christian circles, such as the Day Age Theory, the Gap Theory, and so forth.

I really believe now that Mr. Johnson is an anti-Christian bigot who is using this Darwinian trash as an excuse to Christian-bash at his blog.

I used to enjoy visiting his blog, but now I don't know if I'll be going back.

I at least want to be able to skim over the front page to see news items about radical Islam without having to be forced to scroll down entries tinged with hints of anti-theist / pro-evolution bile.

I wouldn't be surprised if he loses more readers over this - including some Jewish readers who, like some Christians, interpret the story of Adam and Eve literally.

EDIT. Oh lovely. According to this blog page, Charles compared Christians who believe in intelligent design to Islamic Jihadis:
#481 Charles 6/16/2008 5:54:54 pm PDT
But ironically, the jihadis are just as opposed to the theory of evolution as creationists. So they have that in common.

Some good points were raised on that page, such as:

#16 - Telling me that you’re not against Christians or Jews but only against I.D. [Intelligent Design] is a bit like people who say that they’re against “Zionism” but not against Jews.

You know most of the time if someone says they’re “anti-Zionism” it’s nothing but code speak for hating Jewish folks.

....And why is this subject, which is so upsetting to some, allowed to be posted about until the cows come home, but the subject of abortion is forbidden there?

....There is no secret agenda of Christians trying to sneak ID into schools, but so many pro-Darwinists behave like tin foil hat wearers, they behave as though there is one.

And they sound no different to me than the fruit-cakes on the web who spout off different 9/11 conspiracy theories.

(If there is a secret ID plot, the Christian Cabal didn’t invite me.)

.... [reply to post] #10, ReineDeTout:
So you’re shaking in your boots and afraid because someone may have you sit in an air conditioned classroom one day, while you’re sipping your Coca-Cola, and hear about irreducible complexity for an hour?

That’s like the liberals equating a U.S. Marine putting a trash bag with air holes in it over the head of a Gitmo Muslim terrorist detainee with “torture.”

No, torture is having holes drilled in your body with a power tool or having your head slowly sawed off with a dull blade, as the Islmaic terrorists have done to civilian / Jewish / Christian captives.

I’m not in support of *or* against the teaching of ID in schools, but I don’t see what harm would come of it if it were allowed.

People who are rabidly against the teaching of ID make it sound as though people wanting to teach some kids ID are really asking if they can expose the kids to Anthrax.

....It’s so ironic, isn’t it?

The people who are fanatical about supporting evolution and being against ID act as though they are the brainy and educated ones, but they’re so dogmatic and uninterested in hearing opposing views on the subject (or allowing those views to be taught), that they’re actually the ones who are narrow-minded and who are against learning. They also lean towards censorship.

....#15 muman613 Says:
And most of the people who support his crusade will argue that this or that finding proves that there is no creator.

And that is the real reason they cling so tightly to the fable of evolution: it’s not that they believe in science or care about science, as they keep insisting.

Darwinism is all about being against religion, against faith, against God.

The real reason they adhere to evolution is they think it gives them a way out of believing in a God - one who will hold them accountable for how they lived their lives.

Darwinism is their “blankie” (security blanket).

Here are a few examples of blog entries where Charles tries to lump together Islamists and Christians:

Turkish Creationists Turned Away by Israeli Academia

Islam Online: Why Muslims Should Support Intelligent Design

Audio: The Discovery Institute Collaborates with Turkish Creationists

EDIT.
This is getting creepier and more and more pathetic.

Mr. Johnson has added yet another entry bashing Intelligent Design:

Krauthammer on Intelligent Design: Phony Theory, False Conflict

Given that Charles's obsession with Vlaams Belang lasted for eons, I have a feeling his current obsession with Intelligent Design will likely last just as long.

I'm sure anyone who visits LGF for the next two months can expect to see more of these Darwinist propaganda pieces published.
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Related Blog Entry:

Disappointment with Little Green Footballs

OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE ANTI- FAITH BIGOTRY AT LGF:

From someone else's blog (this is their title, not mine):

Why Little Green Footballs is a Hate Site and Why Anyone That Believes in G-d Should  Take it Off Your Blog Roll

What Good Is LGF?

Charles continues to ban people of faith

Anti-Semite and Christian Hater Charles Johnson  of LGF Lies Again

This next link is to a thread at the Gulf Coast Pundit forum. I am not in agreement with all the posts in the thread. Some in that thread seem to be a little prejudiced against Christians, just as Charles is:

Chuckles the Dancing Clown to Close "Lizard Lounge" in his Jihad Against Bitter Bible Clingers!

TBN & Christian T.V., Roman Catholicism

  • Jul. 9th, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Christian T.V., Trinity Broadcasting Network

I sometimes watch TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network), which is a Christian network. I believe most programming on TBN is false and heretical.

I do not support the "Prosperity Gospel," and, sadly, about 80% to 85% of TBN's programming consists of preachers who advocate it.

 (If you'd like to read more about the Prosperity Gospel, try this page:
How the Health and Wealth Gospel Twists Scripture.)

Because most Christians are already aware of that information, and because there are already many blogs and web pages devoted to explaining and refuting the "Prosperity Gospel," and how TBN is awash in it, I won't spend too much time on it here.

There's blame to go 'round, however. 

The other big Christian network, "Day Star," also airs plenty of this "Wealth and Health" trash.

Both networks run wall-to- wall, all-day coverage of false teachers such as Benny Hinn, Paula White, T. D. Jakes (
he denies the Trinity), Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer, Marilyn Hickey, etc.

TBN is especially bad about Benny Hinn shows. Up until recently, it seemed as though TBN were running Benny Hinn's This Is Your Day about three or four times a day (literally, I'm not exaggerating).

Hinn makes me so sick that I can't stand to watch him.

Hinn is incredibly smarmy, he oozes insincerity, and I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to mail him money. I usually flip the channel before his show even comes on.

There are a handful of decent shows on these Christian networks, such as Way of the Master, or the CBN news show that airs on weekends, so I do tune in from time to time. Charles Stanley's sermons on In Touch are usually about 99% correct, so he's okay to watch.

TBN and Roman Catholicism / Ecumenicalism

The thing that gets my goat is that while I see plenty on the web about TBN's wallowing in the "Wealth and Health" Gospel muck, I don't see as much about their dangerous, disappointing flirtation with ecumenicalism.

There are a small number of web pages that discuss it, but not many - or not as many that feature exposes on the Prosperity Gospel.

Roman Catholicism is not Christianity.

Roman Catholicism teaches a works-based salvation:
the Roman Catholic Church rejects the biblical teaching that justification is by faith alone.

Roman Catholicism teaches that one can never know if one is truly saved or not, but to have any chance at being saved at all, one must be baptized into the Roman Catholic Church, receive Roman Catholic sacraments, and be good (do not sin).

The Roman Catholic Church's other big mistake is their rejection of sola scriptura (the scriptures alone as the final spiritual authority in the life of the believer).

Roman Catholicism teaches that Papal dogma, Church Tradition, and God's written Word (the Bible) are all equal in authority.

In practice, though, where dogma or Tradition conflict with the written Word, the Roman Church has favored the dogma and Tradition over the written word, and they therefore nullify the word of God with the traditions of men.

 -Just as Jesus said the Pharisees of His day did.

Those are big, huge, stinking errors, and yet TBN sometimes airs Roman Catholic t.v. shows, including two that are hosted by different priests.

Sometimes, the Crouch family, who own TBN, will have Roman Catholic priests on as guests, and allow the priests to present the Roman Catholic Church's propaganda that Roman Catholicism is indeed a valid form of Christianity.

On a personal level, these various priests I've seen on TBN seem like very friendly, nice men - however, they are men who are teaching error and leading people's souls astray.

But the folks at TBN don't care.

The senior Crouch has even said while hosting some show or other on TBN that he considers Roman Catholicism to be a valid expression of Christianity. The ignorance is astounding.

As I was watching TBN this evening, some show came on, a series called something like Amazing Stories From the Bible.

I've watched this series plenty of times in the past, and I didn't notice much of a problem with it, until tonight's episode.

Usually, this program features Christian apologetics - which is fine, and it gets my approval.

The typical episode will discuss a portion of Scripture, then go to atheists who spew their usual, idiotic, ranting objections as to why they don't believe the Bible's account could possibly be true.

Next, the show will switch back to Christian and Non-Christian scientists, historians, and others who show why the Bible is true and accurate on some point or another, and often times, re-enactments of the Bible stories are shown; you'll see actors wearing biblical period costumes and so forth.

One episode discussed Moses crossing the Red Sea and gave naturalistic, convincing theories as to how the sea could have parted (although, personally, I don't believe God has to rely on the normal workings of nature to make such events occur).

Another episode discussed the events of
Daniel Chapter 3, and offered explanations on how the three men (Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago) were thrown into a large, roaring furnace and yet still survived.

The introduction to tonight's show, however, pertained to the supposed sighting of the Virgin Mary by three kids, and it went on to discuss how there have been numerous sightings of Mary over the world now for decades.

From the way the introduction to tonight's episode was presented, it was made to look as though the episode was going to be in favor of these Marian appearances, and that it was going to defend such appearances as being real, biblical, and legitimate.

In which case, I realized, this must be a program backed and sponsored by the Roman Catholic Church. I was so disgusted that I turned the channel to something else.

I am sickened that TBN pushes a Roman Catholic agenda, and that they allow Roman Catholics to use their network to present false Roman Catholic beliefs.

As for the specific topic of Marian appearances...

I believe they're demonic. Seriously.

The Bible says that Satan will sometimes appear as "an angel of light." Satan and his demons will appear as anything or anyone to lead people away from Jesus Christ.

So no, it's not shocking to think that demons might appear as the Virgin Mary to further sucker Roman Catholics into all this Marian devotion.

All this Mary "dulia" nonsense is really nothing more than Marian worship, which further removes their attention from the only One who can save them, Jesus of Nazareth.

And here you have TBN lending a hand in this demon-backed, Roman Catholic deception.

I feel so sorry for the countless number of Roman Catholics who have been deluded straight to hell (literally) over the false teachings of their denomination.

Disappointment with Little Green Footballs

  • Jun. 24th, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I have not visited LGF (Little Green Footballs) in a week or two now.

At one time, I enjoyed LGF. I do maintain a membership there, but I do not plan on visiting as much, and I don't intend on posting there much, either (not that I was ever a very active member to start with).

While I still agree with some of the views presented on the blog, particularly in regards to the dangers of Islam, I became dismayed with what I perceive to be a sort of on-going disrespect to Christians, Christianity, or Christian belief, which I will address toward the end of this post.

I also have other reasons why I'm not as keen on LGF as I once was.


HIGH SCHOOL CLIQUE

A couple of years ago, one of my main problems with the LGF blog was the "high school clique" atmosphere.

There were some members who had been with LGF since the beginning, and these individuals acted as they owned the blog, and they behaved like bullies.

There was a definite group-think going on at that time, and if one did not walk lock-step with it on just about every topic, one was dubbed a troll or a "Moby." To some extent, that behavior continues at LGF today.

I remain amazed at the number of adults at LGF (and at other blogs and sites on the web) who feel perfectly fine and justified brow-beating and insulting other people.

I commend the blog owner, Mr. Johnson, for having purged the blog of such members back then.

The disgruntled members went off to their own blog, called "
Gulf Coast Pundit," where they remained, even over a year later, bitter about the whole 'being- banned- from- LGF' fiasco, and, as a result, sound like whiny little children.

To a degree, I sympathize with the GCP crowd.

For one thing, some of them were loyal members of LGF for eons, so I can understand how they might feel betrayed.


GETTING BANNED FOR HOLDING OPPOSING VIEWS

On a second note, I'm troubled and turned off by the fact that Mr. Johnson, who owns LGF, also has a grade-school mentality, in that anyone who posts to GCP gets banned from his blog.

I have witnessed some individuals getting banned for simply holding opposing views.

Even though I do not care for the personalities of most of the former "Lizards" now posting at GCP, I was horrified to see that some were banned even though they had not posted anything about the "LGF-GCP war" at GCP.

Some were banned from LGF simply for having signed up at GCP -and even though they had not made any posts at GCP, or had not made any anti-LGF posts at GCP.

Former LGF member "Fjordman" was banned, although, apparently, his only shortcoming was holding a difference of opinion concerning European politics and such.

You can read more about it here:
My Farewell to Little Green Footballs

Even if one does not agree with Fjordman's position on European politics and making questionable alliances in the fight against Islamic jihad, the thing that gets me is that based upon the posts I read by him, Fjordman was never rude in presenting his views at LGF.

In the posts I read, Fjordman remained polite and articulate in presenting his views, even in the face of receiving copious amounts of hateful and immature "you suck, drop dead" sort of posts from others there.


IMMATURITY

Another annoyance of mine with LGF has to do with the immaturity of the posts.

I used to enjoy reading the comments left by blog visitors (even the ones I disagreed with), but often times, especially if the post pertains to a favorite LGF target (such as the Fjordman guy), post after post will consist of, "Fjordman sucks," "Fjordman's mama is a whore" and similiar rhetoric.

If I wanted to read that kind of juvenile nonsense on a regular basis, I would initiate friend requests with every 15 year old guy and girl at "My Space.com."


ROMAN CATHOLICISM

One aspect I have always found frustrating about the LGF blog is the over-abundance of Roman Catholics who participate.

I  should explain up front that while I happen to be a Christian, I am neither a Roman Catholic or a Protestant, (though I would say that my beliefs are more closely aligned with conservative Protestantism than with Roman Catholicism).

While I harbor no personal malice towards Roman Catholic individuals, I do realize that Roman Catholicism itself is not Christian.

On an official level, the Vatican and the Pope, which set Roman Catholic policy and belief, reject sola scriptura (the Scriptures alone), as well as the basic biblical concept that justification is by faith alone.

The rejection of those two concepts has allowed all manner of heresy and false teaching into the Roman Catholic Church.

(Oddly enough, there was one Roman Catholic lady at the LGF blog who does not even understand the fundamental differences between Protestantism and Catholicism; she asked about it, so she was given a very brief explanation of the differences and some links for further reading.)

Any opinions set forth in that blog which are said to be from the "Christian" perspective are usually done so from the Roman Catholic perspective. Considering that Roman Catholicism is not Christianity, I find that troubling.

LGF is a very staunch supporter of Israel, and seems to have a heavy Jewish readership. (I also am a supporter of Israel and have respect for Judaism.)

I sometimes watch, dismayed, as one or two of the grumpy Jews on that blog rip apart Christianity, wherein they cite atrocities done by "Christians" (that is, Roman Catholics) to Jews in centuries past.

(Not that Protestants are completely innocent themselves. Some of Protestantism's most famous characters, such as Martin Luther, wrote very anti-Semitic material, but my sense is that most Jews are not as familiar with Protestant anti-Semitism as they are with the Roman Catholic variety.)

ATHEISM  / KILLGORE TROUT

There is one atheistic fellow at the LGF blog, under the screen name "Killgore Trout," who has serious issues with Christianity.

It is my understanding that Trout once was a Roman Catholic, but left the church many years ago.

What Killgore Trout does not realize is that he was never a Christian to begin with.

Unless a Roman Catholic accepts the Biblical teaching about salvation, he is not really saved; he is not a true believer.

I can only assume that this Killgore Trout person believes he was once a Christian only because he was dragged to mass a few times as a child. Perhaps he even read the Bible a few times.

Such people do not understand that those things do not make one a believer. As the old expression goes, 'one can walk into a garage, but that does not make one a car.'

In the same way, having the "outward" trappings of Christianity -such as reading the Bible, attending Church, doing good deeds- none of that is what makes a person a Christian.

One of my pet peeves with Killgore Trout, or with atheists such as him in general, is that while they claim to dislike Christianity and scoff at the existence of a deity, they remain obsessed with the topics.

Such atheists and agnostics never shut up about God, religion, or the Bible.

Deep down, they must suspect on some level there is something to this "Jesus stuff" since they spend every waking moment attempting to debunk it all.

I have noticed that most atheists, particularly the American ones, spend more time lashing out against Christianity than they do Hinduism, Islam, Wicca, New Age, or Judaism.

At the LGF blog, Killgore Trout jumps on any and every opportunity to pounce on and insult Christianity. Due to his preoccupation with the issue, I have wondered at times if he has mental health issues.

I would not be surprised if Killgore Trout spends more time ruminating over Jesus than the Pope and evangelist Billy Graham combined.

While I myself have a dislike of atheism, I do not spend large portions of my day thinking about it or arguing about it on the web (or anywhere else, for that matter; my sister's boyfriend is an agnostic, and I rarely, if ever, discuss religion with him).

Killgore Trout assumes that any and all Christians are stupid. I've seen other atheists do the same, so he's not alone there.

Many Christians are intelligent people; scientists of the past, such as Isaac Newton, were believers.

Some Christians today have college degrees.

Some of the earliest universities were founded by Christians.

I think some atheists (the bitter, angry ones who adhere to an irrational hatred of any and all things Christian) find it comforting to concoct and live in this fantasy world where all atheists are brilliant, scholarly, logical types and all Christians are illiterate, stupid, and anti-science.

They must find it threatening to deal with real Christians, such as the ones out there who work as scientists. The ones who do have degrees and the like.

Killgore Trout is also heavily, heavily intellectually dishonest.

I found this out when exchanging posts with him.

He would intentionally misrepresent my position and attribute straw men arguments to me. (I later saw him do the same thing with other debate opponents.) He would refuse to address even the most basic of arguments.

I found these tactics of his to be highly hypocritical:

Trout tries to present himself as your intellectual superior (especially if he knows that you are a Christian), and he tries to portray himself as a torch-bearer for Truth, Science, and Learning, and yet the man cannot even be honest and accurate when debating someone on a blog.

Either it's dishonesty on his part, or he has poor reading comprehension.

Despite the fact I had been very polite to him and not the least bit rude or condescending, he launched into unprovoked, profanity-laced tirades against me. He was also frequently condescending

If Trout is as intelligent as he thinks he is, why does he rely on ad hominem so much in debate?


EVOLUTION AND INTELLIGENT DESIGN

What brought me to finally sour on LGF pertains to an anti-Christian sentiment that found its expression in the topic of Evolution (also known as Darwinism) and Intelligent Design (which some at the LGF blog mistakenly confuse with, or refer to as, Creationism), with the final straw being this post:
Science: Major Dinosaur Fossil Discovery in Utah

It does not bother me that some of the "Lizards," including the blog owner, Mr. Johnson, reject Intelligent Design and embrace Evolution.

What I found objectionable is the attitude and the accompanying disrespect, as well as the hypocrisy.

The sheer repetition was one turn-off.

By continuing to feature Intelligent Design as a favorite whipping boy, it sent the underlying message, whether intended or not, that "Christians are idiots," or "Anyone who agrees with, or is even open to, Intelligent Design is a moron."

(If I recall correctly, another Christian at the blog, a long time member, pointed all this out and was later banned for it shortly thereafter. Now please head on up this blog entry to read the part about "Getting banned [at LGF] for holding opposing views.")

Had Mr. Johnson just left it at one or two posts, that would have been fine.

But there was a series of threads featuring Intelligent Design, a few having to do with the Ben Stein film,
Expelled. (I may in the future write a separate blog entry on that.)

I found the "Dinosaur" thread to be the most objectionable because of its sarcastic, condescending tone, from the very start, towards Intelligent Design advocates (who are usually Christians). Take the opener in the post:
Oops! Did I say “4,400?” That was just a guess. The real age is closer to 150 million years old.
When the thread is presented in that way, there is no hope for civil, respectful, follow up  in the comments section. The thread is clearly stacked in the favor of pro-Evolutionists from the start.

I also find it puzzling for two religious-related aspects:

LGF is rightly against the atrocities of Islam. Christianity stands in direct opposition to Islam.

It seems strange to me to recognize the evil of Islam, attendant with all its honor killings and suicide bombings, yet turn around and mock one of the cherished beliefs of a peaceful people who also stand in opposition to Islamic violence.

Mr. Johnson and those at the blog go out of their way to treat Judaism with respect. Does it not occur to them that some of the Jews reading their blog may also adhere to a literalist interpretation of the Genesis creation account?

Evolution advocates at LGF and elsewhere in the world remain blinded to their own hypocrisy:

They whine and show indignation at even the thought of Intelligent Design being presented in public schools. However...

They have no problem with macro-evolution being taught in public schools as undisputed, scientific fact, and yet, the concept of macro- evolution has flaws and is less science and is more a religion based upon naturalistic materialist assumptions and presuppositions.

Evolution is a dogma of an atheistic, secular-humanistic religion, which is forced upon public school children.

I do not mind so much that evolution is taught in schools. What bothers me is that schools do not permit evolution to be questioned or critiqued.

(I have even read of the small number of atheists who have raised doubts about evolution being discriminated against, including ones who work within the scientific community, or as professors within science departments at universities.)

I am expected to be totally accepting of and fine with public school children being force-fed this religious crap that masquerades as "science."

To top this off, evolution proponents will not permit dissenting voices to be heard in the public sphere.

Even individuals who do not present a case for Intelligent Design, but only one against all of macro-Evolution, including all of its presuppositions and supporting ideas, are not allowed to be heard.

Macro-Evolution and its "holy text " On the Origin of Species are the Sacred Cows of atheists.


THE FOOLISHNESS OF EVOLUTION


Macro Evolution and its accompanying beliefs are incredibly stupid and foolish, and those who staunchly hold to them don't even seem to realize it.

I'm supposed to believe that just given enough time, and with a little chance tossed in, that life, including complex life such as humanity, can result; or that elephants can eventually mutate into penguins, if it somehow benefits the elephants in some way.

Sure; yeah.

 I'll just toss out a type writer in the back yard, wait a week or so, and see if my cat comes up with a copy of of Hamlet. Maybe by then, the cat will have developed chimp hands, which will facilitate the typing. (Not a perfect analogy, but you get the idea.)

One of the dumbest arguments I have personally received from an evolutionist went as such:
"Oh yeah... well, well, if we didn't get here by evolution, and you're not positing Intelligent Design, then what's your answer?"
Whether I have a third theory or not is irrelevant; it does not invalidate my point that macro evolution is utterly ridiculous.

I haven't read this book, but it looks promising:

EVOLUTION: A Grand Monument to Human Stupidity

IN CONCLUSION
While I still think that LGF has some value (and so I will not entirely depart from it), I am disappointed by the recent spate of Intelligent- Design- bashing  threads, which harbor a latent disrespect for Christians.

Given the nature of some posters at that blog, I've no doubt that if this post is ever discovered, someone there will take it upon himself to weed through other posts here and use any personal information I post about myself to discount my complaints in this particular entry. I've seen it happen there before.

I've no doubt should that happen, someone else will pipe up to say, "It's Charles' blog, he can post whatever he wishes."

Well, yes, that is certainly true, and I have never disputed that.

However, this is my blog, I am entitled to my opinion, and I am free to post my displeasure with the direction of the LGF blog, should I choose.


-- June 26, 2008 Update -

As soon as I saw the news story about some new fossil being discovered on Yahoo.com's home page (Fossil Story), I knew it would be featured at LGF, and sure enough I was correct:

LGF: Science: More Transitional Fossils Discovered

The only positive thing I can say is that at least Charles refrained from saying anything sarcastic against Intelligent Design advocates, Christians, or anyone who rejects evolution in the thread's introduction.

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